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Post by Steelpriest on Oct 26, 2004 5:41:17 GMT -5
What I found today is the following: Slightly altered Gibson designs from Squier. This hollowbody (Squier Starfire) looks very familiar... I also found two more guitars in the current Squier catalogue. Two solidbodies with set necks, very alike the PRS single cut, and thus very close to a Les Paul, and one very slightly modified SG-type guitar, both from the so called Series 24. I wonder if and when Gibson will sue Fender for this. Or if they won´t dare to... Take a look! I will scan the other guitars later and show them to you. I searched an online catalogue of a big german retailer (www.thomann.de) and found at least information on the Starfire. It says the guitar is currently not on stock, and can only be delivered by special demand due to not so sure distribution questions. Oha...   |
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Post by Doug on Oct 26, 2004 9:13:13 GMT -5
Im sure the lawyers are looking into it!
Looks like a nice axe.
I once played a Guild Bluesbird- very nice Les Paul type.
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Post by noeljob on Oct 26, 2004 20:04:40 GMT -5
looks more like a gretsch to me except for the pickups. gibson, fender, gretsch are all very old stringed instrument makers. they all competed in the 40s,& 50s to become the premier guitar manufacturers. i think they have a rival respect for each other. theyve all done very well. nsh?
very fine looking axe on the fender side. i am a true believer in the stopbar/ tuneomatic set up. im not a tremelo user at all, just not my thing. but, i do like it very much when applied by others expierienced in the technique. i wish they would pursue more models like this one in the pic.
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Post by Steelpriest on Oct 27, 2004 0:54:08 GMT -5
Here is a scan from the newest Squier catalogue. Look at the SG type guitar.    I agree with Noel concerning the Starfire, it´s a lovely looking axe, the price in this german online catalogue was about 550 Euro. Not to inexpensive, but still a nice offer. But the design of the SG type guitar really surprised me... is this Fender´s revenge for the Epiphone Stratocaster? ;D What even surprised me more is the fact Fender is treading on fresh ground and makes different models now, far away from Stratocasters and Teles and all that what Fender is known for.  I like the hollowbodies... |
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Post by mandough on Oct 27, 2004 8:39:19 GMT -5
Last year I saw an Elderly Instruments cataloug and it had all of these in there. I don't really think Gibby will try to sue. Fender is just too big, and the designs are just different enough.
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Post by ZacAttack on Oct 27, 2004 19:11:03 GMT -5
I think Squier should be able to make Gibson copies just like Epiphone is makeing a few Fender copies. Would I buy one? No. Why? Well for me its just a matter of choice. If I wanted to eat tacos for dinner I would not go to a chicken place to get them. They might make great tacos, but I would never know it. Would I miss out on the great tacos? Maybe. But for me, if I want another Gibson copy I will buy another Epiphone, and if I want a Fender copy I will buy a Jay Turser. ;D
Just my 2 cents
Zac
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Post by noeljob on Oct 27, 2004 19:26:30 GMT -5
i like the design of all the guitars except for the sg style. heres where i get obnoxious. that is the nastiest sg copy peice of shyte ive ever layed eyes on, and ive seen some pretty bad attempts, but this takes the cake. i dont think even a blind man would buy this hunk of shyte  good god  ok now back to my normal self. just had to get that out. you just cant modify the sg body style and make it look good. the sg is the sg, thats just the way it is.  |
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Post by swinglinecub on Oct 28, 2004 15:27:27 GMT -5
I'll take Noel's position on the aesthetics of it all, though I've heard from a reputable source that the quality is pretty good. I played a new Affinity strat recently and was blown away by how far Squier has come since the piece of crap I got as my first guitar (which has since emerged a butterfly from my workshop). Of course, some major adjustments, total gutting of the electronics, and new pickups helped, but nevertheless.
Ty
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Post by bek on Oct 31, 2004 16:44:41 GMT -5
These are copies of older Guild guitars, which Fender can make legally since they own Guild. The Guilds are similar to some Gibsons, obviously. I think Tommy Iommi (among others) used to play the Guild S-100, which is the SG-looking axe. Starfire is the original Guild name for those 335-looking thinlines. Clearly, those Series 24s are Bluesbird lookalikes.
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Post by Steelpriest on Oct 31, 2004 22:11:04 GMT -5
Bek, thanks for your input. I forgot this fact, that Guild now belongs to Fender. And Guild is also an old manufacturer of guitars, and as you mention, their designs where somewhat similar to Gibson´s. Well all in all guitars are all a little alike. I don´t think there will be a brandnew and also good looking design in the future. Only variations of former designs. One of the worst attempts in "new" design was the Parker guitar, IMO. Also the beloved PRS is more or less a variation of the Ibanez Musician. Some of their models, those with the shorter upper cutaway look like Les Paul DCs. Peace. Hehehe... |
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Post by gearhead41 on Nov 28, 2004 20:00:34 GMT -5
I think it's funny!
Gibson via Kramer knocks off the Strat design and sells em for 79 bucks...
Go Fender Go!
LOL
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Post by lostguitarman13 on Jan 3, 2005 19:02:55 GMT -5
Looks more like the oscar schmitt guitars Musician's Friend sells, as for me I'll stick with Epiphone, I don't care for squires never have had the balls that the Ei does, and the 155 looks like a cheap imitation of an Ibanez, we won't even go into the bastardation of the SG. But, that's just me, I'm very loyal - Cheers
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I like the hollowbodies...
good god 
