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Post by flyv on Apr 18, 2004 17:28:04 GMT -5
i went to guitar center yesterday and noticed all the epis had grover tuners while the gibbys had kluson.why would that be when the grovers are better tuners?am i missing something here?
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Post by CAFeathers on Apr 18, 2004 17:58:38 GMT -5
Were they actual Kluson's or Kluson style Grover's? Both of the Gibson's I got last year had Kluson style Grover's on them.
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Post by Steelpriest on Apr 18, 2004 23:43:55 GMT -5
I also came across Kluson-style Schallers recently in a good guitar store, they looked very trusty, oh yeah... and that´s what I think Gibson uses Schaller tuners..., somewhere I read about Gibson using Schaller hardware, or they used to do in the past... *g* ...I say this with pride, though we haven´t got a decent manufacturer of electric guitars over here, but we have the nice people of Schaller in Germany... *g*  P.S.: Okay we have Framus which now belongs to Warwick, or vice versa... it was always Framus, but they picked Warwick as a brandname for their basses, at least that´s what I heard. Yikes, I´m drifting slighty away into off topic... DOH! ;D |
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Post by flyv on Apr 19, 2004 12:53:39 GMT -5
possibly they were better tuners than i thought then...i have a ric 330 with schallers and they are fine tuners indeed.
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Post by flyv on Apr 19, 2004 12:55:56 GMT -5
while im thinking about it they show ads here for hofner guitars,handcrafted in germany.they look great,anyone ever get 5their hands on one?
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Post by zep on Apr 20, 2004 16:36:10 GMT -5
Grover tuners are better than junky klusons, but there are some really good Kluson style tuners like the Gibson deluxe tuners.
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Post by flyv on Apr 20, 2004 16:44:23 GMT -5
i guess what i need to know now is do they make a good set to fit an epi korina v without new holes being drilled and gold hardware,so far the stock tuners have been o.k. but they will probably loosen up with age.
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Post by Steelpriest on Apr 21, 2004 9:19:53 GMT -5
No matter what tuners you chose for your guitar, it isn´t that much work to make the holes wider to suit the new tuners. But I strongly recommend to "ream out" the holes by hand. A special tool for this delicate job isn´t that expensive. Never ever use an electric borer and drill on the headstock of a guitar. You might easily cause severe damage with an electric borer. |
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Post by flyv on Apr 21, 2004 17:40:30 GMT -5
good advice.the klusons are working o.k. right now but ill keep it in mind when they wear out.hopefully in the meantime ill find that casino ive been looking for...
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Post by thieery on Apr 22, 2004 10:06:44 GMT -5
I read that Schaller tuners were made in japan by Gotoh. I put Gotoh Vintage Keystone-style Machines on my Goldtop and they are very precise with their modern improved 15:1 gearing.  |
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Post by ZacAttack on Apr 22, 2004 11:21:23 GMT -5
Personally I have used both and I like Grover better. Grover mini tuners are my favorite. I had Kluson type tuners on my S-1 for some time. Well the big E tuner went to crap on me in the middle of a gig. The one saving grace these tuners have is that you can fix them on the spot. ( I did ) I can't see a Grover breaking like that but if it did you would be s*** out of luck man. I am switching the stock tuners on my LP special as soon as I can find some Grover flat black tuners.
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Post by zep on Apr 22, 2004 14:56:50 GMT -5
Good advice Steel, never let an electric drill near your guitar unless you really know what you're doing.
I a Grover broke in the middle of a gig you'd have a problem, but somehow I doubt that it would happen, after all they look just about indestructable and very good at keeping in tune, more than I can say for the stock tuners on a special II.
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Post by ZacAttack on Apr 27, 2004 9:54:31 GMT -5
Good advice Steel, never let an electric drill near your guitar unless you really know what you're doing. I a Grover broke in the middle of a gig you'd have a problem, but somehow I doubt that it would happen, after all they look just about indestructable and very good at keeping in tune, more than I can say for the stock tuners on a special II. Yeah thats why I am changing mine. The stock tuners on my special II don't suck but they are a far cry from grovers. I have grovers on my S-1 and can leave that thing in the case for weeks and it stays in tune. Tune it once and it stays that way the whole show with only a tweak or two. Ok so when I put grovers on my special II you say I am gonna have to bore out the holes? Bummer! I think I will pay to have it done by a pro. How much do you think would be a fair price to pay for that service? |
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Post by Steelpriest on Apr 27, 2004 10:17:40 GMT -5
Well, if you never made it before let someone do this job for you... and read my advice above, never use an electric borer. Hmm, what will it cost... If I was over there I´d say buy a box of beer, fry some saugages and in the meanwhile I´d do this job for you... Well I think I should not be that expensive... about 25 bucks?  |
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