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Post by ZacAttack on Apr 20, 2004 17:27:12 GMT -5
Ok I wanted everyone to get their vote and their say in before I sprung this on ya.
I had Dunlop strap locks on my S-1 when I was about 19. I trusted them to no end. I became complacent and never gave the guitar falling another thought. Ok without going into detail this other (3rd) guitar player in the band at that time hated me. (I didn't care much for him either) So one day I sling her on(my S-1) and bend down to turn on my amp. I stand back up and the front strap pin and lock and all comes out and I didn't catch it in time. It slamed into the floor head stock first. No the tuning head did not break off or crack but about mid curve on the cut away( LP style guitar) it cracked and and ran up the back about 2 1/2 inches. After the shock wore off I examined the guitar and strap pin and lock very carefuly. It had been purposly striped out. I know this because I installed the locks myself and made sure the thing was right. Ok I know the dude did it and wanted him dead you could see where he had messed up the philips slot on the strap pin screw with a screwdriver. Ok well we wont go into what he got in return. But my point is that would have happened with or without locks so don't ever trust the pin its self too much. I never take both hands off the guitar if I can at all help it.
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Post by jamesnz on Apr 20, 2004 21:20:50 GMT -5
sheesh, thats not on. if some one did that to me id prolly kill them thats not a very funny joke at all....  mabey just a hint about what you did back?.... -james |
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Post by ZacAttack on Apr 21, 2004 8:17:41 GMT -5
sheesh, thats not on. if some one did that to me id prolly kill them thats not a very funny joke at all.... mabey just a hint about what you did back?.... -james Big old enternal band battle. He left and took the bass player (that noeljob and I had raised from a newbie) with him along with a bump or 10. (nothing that wouldn't heal up or hair over) Two months later the bass player had his fill of the guy and wanted to come back. But we had moved on and replaced him. We did stay friends with the bassist, and jammed with him now and again. p.s. the guy in question hated me, it was not done as a joke but rather to break my guitar and put me out of comision and out of the band. But it back fired on him somethin fierce. |
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Post by JoEpiWong on Apr 23, 2004 4:05:52 GMT -5
I have Dunlop strap locks installed on my LP Custom. The only problem with strap locks is that you need a lot of straps if you are to install the locks in every guitar that you have. Or you would have a lot of spare locks for the strap end. The good thing is of course you can use any 'locked' strap with any 'locked' guitar.
I play both standing and sitting as it allows me to get use to my playing stance and technique in both positions. I'm paranoid about the expensive guitars hitting the dirt, hence I always hold on to them as a habit while standing or moving around with the guitar strapped.
Joe
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Post by Steelpriest on Apr 23, 2004 5:00:47 GMT -5
Oh boy... Zac! this is a weird story...  But back to the strap locks... If you use Schaller Security Locks there are additional endpins available for the guitars, not from Schaller itselft but from a manufacturer called Göldo, at least here in Germany. Those pins are cheap and suit the Schaller lock which you have on your strap, ...no need to buy a complete set all the time. Well, from time to time I check the locks and the pins on my guitars to be really sure everything is okay. I use these locks to be able to let my guitar loose sometimes and have free hands to open a bottle of beer or to roll a cig... I prefer playing standing, also when practising at home. It is a complete different thing to sit down or to stand, the position of the guitar is totally different, and you will find it hard to play things you practised sitting on a chair when you stand up. By the way that´s another reason I made the Les Paul my favorite type of guitar. The "sitting" and "standing" position is a bit more similar than with any other guitar. Only when I record leads I sit down from time to time.  To cut it short: Strap Locks are a must. 
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Post by gearhead41 on Apr 23, 2004 17:47:52 GMT -5
well, i feel the need to repent from my strap-lock less ways....
Favorite Brands? Do it matter?
-James
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Post by ZacAttack on Apr 27, 2004 9:45:00 GMT -5
Oh boy... Zac! this is a weird story... But back to the strap locks... If you use Schaller Security Locks there are additional endpins available for the guitars, not from Schaller itselft but from a manufacturer called Göldo, at least here in Germany. Those pins are cheap and suit the Schaller lock which you have on your strap, ...no need to buy a complete set all the time. Well, from time to time I check the locks and the pins on my guitars to be really sure everything is okay. I use these locks to be able to let my guitar loose sometimes and have free hands to open a bottle of beer or to roll a cig... I prefer playing standing, also when practising at home. It is a complete different thing to sit down or to stand, the position of the guitar is totally different, and you will find it hard to play things you practised sitting on a chair when you stand up. By the way that´s another reason I made the Les Paul my favorite type of guitar. The "sitting" and "standing" position is a bit more similar than with any other guitar. Only when I record leads I sit down from time to time. To cut it short: Strap Locks are a must. Yup the story is wierd but true. I also think strap locks are a must, I am just stuborn and slow to change. There are few things worse than a strap coming off or even worse, tearing when you are on stage. Last thursday we played a little party for kahntheundead as to he got married saturday. Well anyhow 2 songs into it, my strap starts popping off the pin. Luckily it's a ok leather strap and had 2 morel holes I could use, but I was kicking myself for not installing strap locks on it by now. Anyhow I get the strap working for me,,,,next song I break a D string,,,,,DOH! I was just snake bit I guess. |
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Post by mandough on Apr 27, 2004 10:50:23 GMT -5
I recommend the Schaller, because the Dunlop version uses a push-in release mechanism. Imagine your 6' tall sexy chick lead singer doing the" rump-bump" with you onstage, and instead of looking suave, your guitar falls off and breaks the headstock..YUK ! ! ! The Schaller , on the other hand, uses a pull out release, and the diva can bump it as much as she likes and it'll be secure. My official opinion is that Schaller locks rule and are a MUST ! !
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Post by Steelpriest on Apr 27, 2004 15:52:50 GMT -5
I recommend the Schaller, because the Dunlop version uses a push-in release mechanism. Imagine your 6' tall sexy chick lead singer doing the" rump-bump" with you onstage, and instead of looking suave, your guitar falls off and breaks the headstock..YUK ! ! ! The Schaller , on the other hand, uses a pull out release, and the diva can bump it as much as she likes and it'll be secure. My official opinion is that Schaller locks rule and are a MUST ! ! Sounds reasonable... *g* ;D |
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Post by gearhead41 on Apr 27, 2004 17:20:58 GMT -5
Any of you have any brands to stay away from. After reading this thread, I think Ill invest in several sets...
-James
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Post by zep on Jul 20, 2004 11:17:45 GMT -5
I'm thinking about getting some straplocks this week. Which ones are best in terms of being secure but not needing any modification (drilling/glue) to my LP.
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Post by supedupviper on Jul 20, 2004 12:38:51 GMT -5
I haven't ever had my strap let me down. Its a 2 inch Gibson, it takes a little effort to put it on, but it holds really well. With my old crappy strap, it would always give out, but not this one. The only time I'll consider getting strap locks is if I get in a band and do a lot of shows
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Post by hcoll on Jul 20, 2004 20:41:46 GMT -5
...not sure about the Schaller and Dunlop locking systems...I don't gig...I just use the el-cheapo plastic Dunlop concentric strap locks that twist shut...usually find them next to the picks...they're better than nothing.......
...for those of you that don't use strap locks...try 'em see if you like them...for a light weight like my AJ-10...it's all I need...you know I'm not jumpin' around playin' in church...I use them with a Gibson strap...I do tend to check them periodically between songs............
...most...if not all my playing with the Dot is done sitting down...I use a suede strap that fits rather snug...the Dunlops are just extra insurance.........
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Post by Gregzy on Jul 24, 2004 16:19:22 GMT -5
I use the Schallers on my horn mounted strap button guitars (Les Pauls etc) and the flatter Dunlops on the rear mounted strap button guitars (ES-335, SG, Riviera, Casino etc.). There's even a flush mounted Dunlop but I wouldn't attempt any home installations unless you really know what you're doing and it does alter the guitar permanently. Thirty years of using strap locks, not one incident of it coming apart or of have ever breaking a guitar through strap failure. Both brands are equally secure and I wouldn't be without one of the two on my guitars. I even have a Dunlops as end pins on my SJ-200 and Texan. I'd put them on my Martins but they have a different set up (push in end pins). Check the screw occasionally and you'll never have a problem.
Avoid at all costs though the Planet Waves plastic built in strap locks straps. My friend and band mate used one on his white Les Paul Custom and the plastic ate a circle around the strap pin in the nitro finish. D'Addario sent him a bunch of strings, picks and connecting cords to make up for it and even sent him a new strap (doh!) but even they admitted they never tested the strap on nitro finished guitars so don't put them on your Gibsons. Perhaps they'd be ok on Epiphones since I think their finishes are impervious to everything short of a direct thermo-nuclear hit.
Greg
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Post by sacrifice on Jul 26, 2004 20:02:01 GMT -5
Check out Kepur straps! They absolutely rock! You'll be dumbfounded as to why your guitar isn't falling off even when you're purposefully holding it up in the air just by the strap itself. I'm not kidding you guys! I bought two of these and they are awesome! No wonder they're endorsed by POD and Disturbed among others. Check 'em out! The only way someone can sabotauge this is by taking a knife and cutting your strap! |
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To cut it short: Strap Locks are a must. 
