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Post by theboatcandream on Feb 28, 2005 23:34:31 GMT -5
Are any of the chinese special II's mahogany?
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Post by Steelpriest on Mar 1, 2005 3:17:12 GMT -5
I thought all the Specials were made of particle board? Like the SG Bully...
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Post by noeljob on Mar 1, 2005 9:02:50 GMT -5
on the contrary my homie. my sg bully isnt particle board, ive looked at it, ive even got a ding in it. it is a very light colored wood ash or that tonewood maybe not much grain to it but definitely not particle board. this particular bully might be different or something. also zac has a special II made out of mahogany. it is translucent so you can see the grain.
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Post by ZacAttack on Mar 1, 2005 13:54:35 GMT -5
To add to what noel said. My wine red lp special II is mahogany. All of the wine red special IIs I have played (6 at last count) are mahogany. Two out of eight of the traditional sunburst lp sp IIs I have played were mahogany. None of the ebony(8) and none of the heritage cherry(7) I have played were mahogany. Out of all of them, mine looks and plays the best out of the ones I have played. Also none of the earlier runs of sp IIs I have played were made of mahogany. That consists of 1 cahrcoal grey burst 1 lipstick red 3 ebony with a funny looking epi logo (the leters looked like the jap made ones) and thats all I know for a fact.
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Post by Steelpriest on Mar 1, 2005 16:12:01 GMT -5
Well, I used the wrong translation, keep in mind I´m a sauerkraut-eater, I meant plywood, not particle board. The SG Bully I checked out was indeed made of plywood. It had a veneer on the back and top that was slightly and light coloured, but the edges were non-trunslucent. When you held the guitar in a specific angle to the light and peeked over the edges you could easily notice the typical structure of plywood with it´s layers.
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Post by noeljob on Mar 1, 2005 20:18:22 GMT -5
thats ok, well let it slide this time before i bought my bully i did some research, and i cant remember where,ill try and find it again, but i found out that it had a maple top. thats one of the reasons i bought it, and because of the unusual headstock. let me do some research and ill get back to you.
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Post by noeljob on Mar 1, 2005 20:37:36 GMT -5
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Post by Smooth on Mar 1, 2005 22:39:28 GMT -5
Are any of the chinese special II's mahogany? In an short answer, no. However i have recently discovered some LP Jrs and FAT-210's bodies being made of solid alder and/or basswood. All the bolt-on SG and LP spl II's are many laminated wood plys, i.e. plywood as Steel stated. The only solid all mahogany special is the set neck Bob Marley special. If you are in doubt, the best way to tell is to unbolt the neck and check the unpainted neck pocket.
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Post by theboatcandream on Mar 2, 2005 2:08:17 GMT -5
I thought all the Specials were made of particle board? Like the SG Bully... One friend of mine had a black les paul studio from the late 90's which is plywood, but the guitarist in my band had a special II which was alder.
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Post by theboatcandream on Mar 2, 2005 2:09:50 GMT -5
In an short answer, no. However i have recently discovered some LP Jrs and FAT-210's bodies being made of solid alder and/or basswood. All the bolt-on SG and LP spl II's are many laminated wood plys, i.e. plywood as Steel stated. The only solid all mahogany special is the set neck Bob Marley special. If you are in doubt, the best way to tell is to unbolt the neck and check the unpainted neck pocket. I was thinking the neck pickup cavity... if it's a solid finish though, (tv yellow), then I guess the pickup cavities will all be painted?
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Post by Steelpriest on Mar 2, 2005 2:46:45 GMT -5
Do as I suggested, peek over the edges of your guitar holding them against the light, it is nearly impossible to absolutely hide the typical layer structure of plywood under a high glossy laquer finish.
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Post by ZacAttack on Mar 3, 2005 11:31:05 GMT -5
Ok well I was going by the wood grain and the weight. I guess I could be wrong, it would not be the first time. But the wood grain on mine looks the same body and neck. And if the neck is not mahogany then they should not sell it as such. Tell me this. Why are some, much hevier than others. I thought the hevier ones must be mahogany and the lighter ones alder. Either way I like my special II almost as much as I like my quilt top/
Zac
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Post by Steelpriest on Mar 3, 2005 15:13:10 GMT -5
Well I can´t make a general declaration. I did not hold all the Epi Specials in my hands, but the SG Bully I checked was made of plywood (the body), the neck was maple. But although it had a plywood body it sounded pretty good for such a priceworthy guitar. To be honest: I don´t give a shit of what kind of wood these affordable guitars are made, as long as they sound good and are well made. Sure, you can find mahogany in lower price ranges meanwhile, the wood, in most cases, is not the expensive part of a guitar, it´s the craftmanship that is expensive... so what the heck... IMO.
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Post by noeljob on Mar 3, 2005 22:59:23 GMT -5
true dat. very well said. they must also play well.i guess that falls under craftsmanship.
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Post by theboatcandream on Mar 4, 2005 0:41:17 GMT -5
If your has a mahogany body, can you post a picture of it which shows the grain?
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